Thanks for your reply . I was initiallly running 7.1.4 then found that going backto 7.0. adding wifi credentials and then upgrading to 7.14 with my settings saved seemed to work. The issue now is that a hikvision ip camera connectted to lan port 1 which can be accessed via lan 2 , 3 or wifi 2.4 /5hz hotspots from the rutx before any setup, (that is from fresh factory reset) does not pass through the modem to a laptop or the network the separate access point is connected to for viewing / recording any more, ive tried ip passthrough , firewall etc nothing allowed through from camera even after changing its ip several times to see if range/ clashes were issues. I must say the rutx11 is a great product itself but the firmware needing restarts after changes etc makes it clunky unpredictable and also i hope the issue with camera isnt managements software subscription tie in related as this is why i ditched a similar cradlepoint product